razdolsky ([info]razdolsky) wrote,
@ 2008-01-22 16:06:00
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Знакомьтесь: Даша Самойлова.

Знакомьтесь: Даша Самойлова.

Правда, сейчас к ней все чаще обращаются по-протоколу: Самойлова Дарья Игоревна, 1988 г.р. Дело в том, что Даша, работая в одном крупном магазине бытовой техники в г. Перми «специалистом по внедрению компьютерных программ», 14 декабря 2007 г. была задержана сотрудниками милиции при сбыте контрафактных компьютерных программ. Обстоятельства таковы: магазин, занимаясь помимо всего прочего продажей компьютеров, поручал (по телефону) Даше продавать лицензионное программное обсеспечение. Так все случилось и в этот раз. Только «клиенты» настойчиво требовали установить пиратские программные продукты. Даша позвонила начальнику и поставила его в известность о сложившейся ситуации. Начальник приказал подъехать в офис и взять диски, необходимые для установки. На возражения о том, что программы, которые желает установить клиент дорогие и действия будут подпадать под уголовный кодекс, начальник ответил примерно следующее: «Поставь пиратку, потом перетащим на лицензию».

            Вернувшись в офис к клиентам, Даша выполнила необходимые установки, после чего клиенты попросили продать установочные диски. После устной санкции шефа, Даша передала диски. После получения расчета за проделанную работу и диски в размере 3 500 рублей, «клиенты» представились сотрудниками милиции и объявили о проверочной закупке. 

            Вчера было возбуждено два уголовных дела по ч. 2 ст. 146 УК РФ. Одно с формулировкой «совершила незаконные действия по записи программ для ЭВМ в память компьютера», второе «хранение и перевозка контрафактных произведений в целях сбыта».

            Вот перечень установленных программ. Если кто-то может опровергнуть эту стоимость: милости прошу:

Windows Server 2003 Standart Edition, Microsoft Ofiice 2003 Professional, Microsoft Office Project 2003 Professional, Microsoft Office Info Path 2003. Представителем Корпорации Майкрософт ущерб оценен в 69 881 рублей 60 копеек.

            Перед Вами классический пример «ловушки» - подробнее о нем я напишу позже.

Теперь немного истории. У Даши давнее хроническое заболевание почек. Год назад она окончила тяжелый курс терапии. И пошла с подругами отметить это событие в ночной клуб. Охранников, домотревших Дашу, привлекла упаковка с двумя таблетками. Они вызвали госнаркоконтроль. Таблетки оказались сильнодействующими веществами, продающимися только по рецепту. Получала их Даша в больнице, естественно, нигде не расписываясь. В суде и на следствии сотрудники больницы показали, что прием таких лекарств производится только под контролем врача, следовательно, Дарья их украла. Эпизод кражи в обвинение не вошел, поскольку инвентаризация, проведенная в больнице, пропажу не выявила. Все усилия моего коллеги привели лишь к чрезвычайно мягкому наказанию: 1,5 года обязательных работ. Устраиваться на работу в магазин бытовой техники Даша пошла под строгим надзором уголовно-исполнительной инспекции. Теперь адиминистрация магазина открещивается от Даши, объясняет, что она работает не у них, а у неизвестного юр. лица.

Юристам ничего объяснять не нужно. Для прочих:  имея неснятую и непогашенную судимость, Даша обвиняется в тяжком преступлении, причем по двум эпизодам. При обвинительном приговоре она точно попадет в колонию. Где и погибнет с её-то заболеванием. Кроме того, Корпорация имеет право требовать от неё компенсации в размере 279 526 рублей 40 коп.

Я взялся за защиту Даши и получил её согласие на публикацию всех сведений в ЖЖ.

Постараюсь побробно освещать свои действия и действия следователей…

 




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[info]alex_ponosov
2008-01-22 07:12 pm UTC (link)
Страшно.
У меня в ЖЖ есть подобная история про москвича Илью Кормильцева. Недавно разговаривал с Ириной, его матерью, предлагает создать организацию по оказанию помощи пострадавшим от "защитников"

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[info]zzfi
2008-01-23 06:19 pm UTC (link)
при такой сумме как 279526 руб. дело тянет на особо тяжкое, я правильно понимаю? Тогда, как понимаю, можно требовать присяжных, так ведь?

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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-24 05:40 am UTC (link)
в обвинении вменена сумма 69881,6 р. два раза (по двум уголовным делам) 279526 руб. - это сумма гражданского иска (не ущерб по уголовномцу делу) который может заявить Корпорация

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[info]biomorph
2008-01-23 07:03 pm UTC (link)
Устраиваться на работу в магазин бытовой техники Даша пошла под строгим надзором уголовно-исполнительной инспекции. Теперь адиминистрация магазина открещивается от Даши, объясняет, что она работает не у них, а у неизвестного юр. лица.


Извините, но как такое возможно? Неужели факт устройства на работу нигде не был зафиксирован? Как же тогда срок отсчитывать и вообще...

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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-24 05:43 am UTC (link)
Зафиксировано, есть договор с ООО, никак не связанным с магазином. Сейчас занимаюсь сбором сведений о нем.

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[info]golodranez
2008-01-24 12:36 am UTC (link)
Это же провокация со стороны милиции, по моему это незаконно.

И предложение - попройте обратиться на различные телеканалы и в газеты, я думаю найдутся те кто захочет снять сюжет или опубликовать статью, а это уже много - общественная поддержка обеспечена. Ren-TV например, как раз их тематика.

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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-24 05:50 am UTC (link)
Добиться общественного резонанса и есть моя цель. Ответ на мой e-mail из одной крупной Пермской газеты: "Редакция обеспечена материалом на 2 месяца вперед.." Это как? В марте мы будем читать январские новости?

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Microsoft АО
[info]klark973
2008-01-24 08:24 am UTC (link)
Запишите Московский телефон Алпатова Сергея: 967-8585. Правда, не уверен, что он еще его, у меня он с 92-го года, а с этим человеком с тех пор не контактировал. Так вот, судя по прессе, он теперь там главный "защитник", т.е. на повышение пошел. В крайнем случае можно с ним связаться через телефон представительства M$.

На меня бесполезно ссылаться, врядли он меня помнит, да и контактировали мы с ним, в основном, через Проксиму (по MSDN-ам). Впрочем, сильно сомневаюсь, что через M$ можно что-то сделать, когда дело уже раскрутили.

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Re: Microsoft АО
[info]razdolsky
2008-01-25 07:40 am UTC (link)
Огромное спасибо. Позвонил, Сергей Алпатов В ОАЭ. :-)

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[info]dragoon_twins
2008-01-24 10:24 pm UTC (link)
Что нужно делть, чтобы хоть как-то ей помочь?

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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-25 10:27 am UTC (link)
Постить. Получив общественный резонанс, сможем хотя-бы надеяться на справедливое рассмотрение дела. Обычно бывает так: "146? Виновен!"

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[info]jamao
2008-01-24 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Есть ли телефон отделения милиции, куда её доставили? Или где она сейчас содержится?

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[info]monorels
2008-01-24 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Перепостил.

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[info]dreamy_zombie
2008-01-25 06:29 am UTC (link)
Насколько я помню сумма ущерба там имеет значение с точки зрения квалификации по статье (30000 руб. граница?). Следствие ессно считает по максимуму. Можно попытаться ее значительно снизить пересчитав на "дешевые" OEM лицензии.

Микрософт скорее всего не будет подвать иска о возмещении (см. историю с Поносовым например), они не хотят образа "империи зла".

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[info]pvphome
2008-01-25 10:15 am UTC (link)
Думаете, вы первый такой умный? Не будет никто пересчитывать.

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[info]nelegalova
2008-01-25 07:24 am UTC (link)
насколько я помню, в карточке больного всегда указывается не только результат обследования и диагноз, но и все прописанные лекарства и процедуры. Непонятно мне это место Дашиной истории.

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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-25 07:44 am UTC (link)
Лекарство было прописано. Вот только покупать и хранить его она не имела права

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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-25 07:45 am UTC (link)
Друзья, еще раз огромная просьба: не материться!!!

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[info]parva_amica
2008-01-25 09:40 am UTC (link)
Это ужасно, что девушку обвинили в преступлении. Чем мы можем ей помочь?

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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-25 10:26 am UTC (link)
Постить. Получив общественный резонанс, сможем хотя-бы надеяться на справедливое рассмотрение дела. Обычно бывает так: "146? Виновен!"

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Нда?
[info]jescid
2008-01-25 10:11 am UTC (link)
При покупке был выписан чек, в котором указан получатель денег и реальный продавец, — причём тут Даша, если документы о купле-продаже подписаны не на неё лично как физ. лицо?

Если чек выписан не был, то это уже совсем другая статья.

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[info]nelegalova
2008-01-25 11:05 am UTC (link)
Такими делами занимается Пермский региональный правозащитный центр.
Звонить можно в рабочие дни в рабочее время по телефонам 212-90-01 или 212-21-84. мэйл: center@prpc.ru
В общем выходите на связь. Они готовы разбираться в истории.

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[info]dodaria
2008-01-30 08:10 am UTC (link)
Спасибо.
Единственная дельная информация по этому поводу!

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Хорошо на жалость давишь :)
[info]kudryavy
2008-01-25 11:19 am UTC (link)
Невинный погибающий ангел 1988 г.р., прям слезы на глаза наворачиваются... Однако есть непонятки. На каком основании за продажу дисков должна нести ответственность Даша, а не скажем, юридическое лицо, на которого она работает? Кроме этого, я не понимаю, почему вы просите, чтобы мы способствовали оправданию виновной.

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[info]ilya_compman
2008-01-25 12:13 pm UTC (link)
Нашли молоденькую девушку, хотят на ней оторваться, не задумываясь о том, что губят жизнь девушке, которая (а я верю в это) ни в чём не виновата...

перепощу

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[info]1hvorost
2008-01-25 04:02 pm UTC (link)
Да, с таким везением... грех говорить, но похоже, что не ограничатся этим случаем приключения Даши - профессиональной жертвы милицейского произвола. Может, у неё призвание такое?
Но вытаскивать всё равно надо. Удачи!

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[info]qlman
2008-01-25 05:31 pm UTC (link)
Не понял, где тут "милицейский произвол". Со стороны милиции попробуй взглянуть на обе ситуации.

Ситуация один - девушка задержана с препаратами, оборот которых находится под строгим контролем и владеть которыми ей запрещено без соответствующих документов, документов нет и не было. Что ей их "просто так дали" в больнице - ничем не подтверждается, только её слова.

Ситуация два - девушка задержана с поличным при продаже левого ПО. Чеков не выбивалось. Доказательств, что она действовала от лица организации и по указанию начальства, а не сама по себе - никаких, кроме, опять же, её слов.

Где произвол? Разумные и законные действия.

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[info]ony10
2008-01-26 06:21 am UTC (link)
Офигел:(
Сам попадал в сходную ситуацию в 99.
Прошу Вас не бросать Дашу.

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[info]__temnota__
2008-01-26 11:28 am UTC (link)
перепостила...

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[info]benjik
2008-01-26 12:55 pm UTC (link)
Ну это уже не просто контрольная закупка, это провокация, а законом у нас запрещено шить дела через провокации. Менты слишком сильно настаивали на приобретении именно пиратки...хотя да, в какой замечательной стране мы живем.

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[info]kukla_mooqla
2008-01-26 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Стоп - это конечно же все чудесно, но в истории есть ряд несостыковок:
1. Если она связывалась с шефом при "покупателях" - оперативники не тупые люди им было бы гораздо выгоднее орестовать человека, дававшего распоряжения о продаже...
2. Как может открестить фирма, когда она наверняка подписывала трудовой договор?!
3. Таблетки были, а рецепта нет? Странно, как ей могли дать таблетки в больнице, сильнодействующие и ничего не записать?! Насколько я знаю те лекарства, которые выдаются в больнице предназначены только для внутрибольничного лечения, на лекарства необходимые для амбулаторного лечения выдается рецеп, с которым больной должен обратиться в аптеку...


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[info]razdolsky
2008-01-26 11:01 pm UTC (link)
Позже напишу отдельный пост с ответами на самые популярные вопросы. На Ваши отвечу коротко.

1. А зачем? (Тут включил логику бывшего следователя)
2. Через подставную фирму заключен договор.
3. Писал выше.

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[info]nafaniil
2008-01-27 12:33 am UTC (link)
Я правильно помню что предьявить иск по нелицензионному ПО могут только создатели или правообладатели этого ПО? Т.Е если МС не хочет ничего от обвиняемого то посадить его не могут? или я ошибаюсь?

да насколько я помню.. весь спиок программ установленных на компьютере есть в списках рассылки для 30 дневного пользования...

могу жестоко ошибаться.

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[info]flamin_juventa
2008-03-04 04:45 pm UTC (link)
Увы, нет.

Пиратская статья УК _не_ частного обвинения. Т.е. статью можно пришить и без заявы правообладателя.

Мое глубокое убеждение - это не должно быть так.

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[info]bacr
2008-01-27 01:57 am UTC (link)
Переведите историю на английский, перешлите в Майкростофт в США, напишите ещё что собираетесь разослать историю в крупные американские гарзеты. В данном случае была провокация - сотрудники милиции склоняли к совершению преступления. Я думаю что американский майкрософт постарается замять эту истоию.

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[info]ak_74u
2008-01-28 04:30 pm UTC (link)
+1000
Девушку надо спасать, невзирая ни на что. Майкрософт шить дело через провокацию не станет, а, может, и поспособствует тому, чтобы дело замяли вообще.

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[info]crazy_skipper
2008-01-27 07:54 am UTC (link)
БРЕД!!! Нельзя честно жить в этом обществе. Шанс попасть за решетку у законопослушного гражданина выше, чем у убийцы!

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[info]qlman
2008-01-30 02:08 pm UTC (link)
Ммм, кто законопослушный-то? Даша эта? Да прямо в посте начальном указано, что она сознательно, прекрасно понимая, что делает, и какая за этим может последовать ответственность, нарушала закон.

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[info]quichenotte
2008-01-27 10:27 am UTC (link)
А как же ответственность начальства?

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[info]qlman
2008-01-30 02:11 pm UTC (link)
А вы уверены, что начальство действительно при чём? С Дашей вот всё ясно, состав налицо. А насчёт начальства - сомнения есть. Доказательств его вины - ноль. Только слова самой Даши. На таком базисе привлекать к ответственности нельзя. Может, она просто поддалась сама, да и решила по юности и глупости кармашек себе пополнить. И влетела.

Я не утверждаю, что это так. Но ведь может быть?

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